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No single diet will work for all diabetics
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GysdeJongh
2012-02-19 17:30:25 UTC
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So, Kurt finished his project. Maybe we will see him back in Asd.

<http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-02-diet-diabetics.html>

Paula Deen, the queen of Southern cuisine, created a hoopla last month when
she revealed that she has Type 2 diabetes and has known about it for three
year.

Some people were troubled that even after she was diagnosed, she continued
to cook high-fat, high-sugar, high-calorie recipes on her TV show - foods
that people with the disease are advised to consume infrequently. Deen said
she eats such foods only in moderation.

Meanwhile, Alec Baldwin told "Entertainment Tonight" he lost 30 pounds since
being diagnosed with prediabetes in May. He says he gave up sugar, which was
a real "killer" for him.

So what's the best diet for people with diabetes? There is no one diet,
whether it's a Mediterranean, low-carb or low-fat diet, that is consistently
better at helping people manage diabetes, says Stephanie Dunbar, director of
nutrition and medical affairs for the American Diabetes Association. She is
one of the authors of a new review of the research on diabetes diets
published in February's Diabetes Care.

I found the complete article in Pubmed :

<http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/35/2/434.full.pdf+html>

The effectiveness of medical nutrition therapy (MNT) in the management of
diabetes has been well established (1). Previous reviews have provided
comprehensive recommendations for MNT in the management of diabetes (2,3).

The goals ofMNT are to

1) attain and maintain optimal blood glucose levels, a lipid and lipoprotein
profile that reduces the risk of macrovascular disease, and blood pressure
levels that reduce the risk for vascular disease;

2) prevent and treat the chronic complications of diabetes by modifying
nutrient intake and lifestyle;

3) address individual nutrition needs, taking into account personal and
cultural preferences and willingness to change;

4) maintain the pleasure of eating by only limiting food choices when
indicated by scientific evidence (4).

The literature on nutrition as it relates to diabetes management is vast. We
undertook the specific topic of the role of macronutrients, eating patterns,
and individual foods in response to continued controversy over independent
contributions of specific foods and macronutrients, independent of weight
loss, in themanagement of diabetes.

The position of the American Diabetes Association (ADA) on MNT is that each
person with diabetes should receive an individualized eating plan (4).

ADA has received numerous criticisms because it does not recommend one
specific mix of macronutrients for everyone with diabetes. The previous
literature review conducted by ADA in 2001 supported the idea that there was
not one ideal macronutrient distribution for all people with diabetes.

The following questions are addressed in this review:

1. What aspects ofmacronutrient quantity and quality impact glycemic control
and cardiovascular disease (CVD) risk in people with diabetes?

2. How do macronutrients combine in whole foods and eating patterns to
affect health in people with diabetes?

3. Is there an optimal macronutrient ratio for glycemic management and CVD
risk reduction in people with diabetes?

4. What findings and needs should direct future research?

Gys
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-02-19 17:43:52 UTC
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"No single diet will work for all diabetics"
That's because no diet can either undo or reverse the consequences of
overeating which is VAT (visceral adipose tissue).

Thus, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

and

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Ken
2012-02-19 18:38:14 UTC
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ESAD.....
Tom Horn
2012-02-19 20:17:32 UTC
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Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
"No single diet will work for all diabetics"
That's because no diet can either undo or reverse the consequences of
overeating which is VAT (visceral adipose tissue).
The reason to stay away from fad diets, lose 15 pounds of fat in a
month* and at the same time increase your energy and clean your bowels?
How would you like to lose that double chin and your prominent abdomen
and at the same time make your skin so clean and clear that it will
compel admiration? Get on the scales today and see how much you weigh
then get an bottle of Kruschen Salts which will last you four weeks.
Take one half teaspoonful in a glass of hot water every morning and when
you have finished the contents of this first bottle weigh yourself
again. After that you'll want to walk around and say to your friends
"One bottle of Kruschen Salts is worth one hundred dollars of other vat
approaches."

Note: Use and abuse is potentially serious since it can lead to
intestinal paralysis, irritable bowel syndrome pancreatitis, renal
failure, and other problems, even though recovery could be possible with
proper treatment.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-02-19 23:20:03 UTC
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Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
"No single diet will work for all diabetics"
That's because no diet can either undo or reverse the consequences of
overeating which is VAT (visceral adipose tissue).
The reason to stay away from fad diets ...
This would be the reason to stop overeating without harmful
undereating.

Yes, right amount ( http://WDJW.net/2PD-OMER Approach ) control as
Chris Malcolm, MU, **and** Rod Eastman are doing is much more
sophisticated and smarter:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diet.low-carb/msg/8d2ef74488074acf?

and

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522ce5c058224656?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/da03131060efa3b5?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/055f2e7cf3c590ee?

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

... because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?
Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD
2012-02-19 23:23:29 UTC
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The 2KG Method is the best.
I have enjoyed endlessly wonderful results with it for several years now
Yes indeed! The 2KG 2 Kilogram Method is the *only* way to eat
properly
Right you are Fred!
I have been applying the 2KG-HEALTHY Method for over a year now. 2 kg (give or take) is
the right amount of daily food intake in my opinion. I am wonderfully
full without being hungry! :-)
Indeed, it is smarter to hold to the right amount, which is
approximately 2 kilograms (4.4 lbs/70 oz) of daily food, thereby
stopping the undereating without harmfully overeating.

Yes, right amount and right type: 2KG-HEALTHY Method; approximately
2kg of lean meats, whole grains, vegetables and fruits, avoiding
animal fat, sugar and processed foods, as
Fred Farcus, MOO, **and** Dodi Westman are doing is both sophisticated
and smarter, especially because no weighing is needed :-))) Remember,
regarding the type of food you eat... if man made it, stay away from
it.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/ef05ac78d97a3894?hl=en
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.199971148065.167331.196255898065&type=3
Yuck! Hundreds of pictures of hundreds of plates stacked with
unhealthy junk food.
Gross! Looks like almost all processed foods full of fat, sugar and
starch. Very little nutritional value seen there. Just mainly empty
calories.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/329f4a62a3cf5a57?hl=en

Better to:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c7aaeb7940626693fa418a1eab2291f6.81

Be fuller, which really is wonderfully healthier:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thediethound/blog/2009/06/28/fat-people-are-much-healthier-than-thin-people

Because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart, that all
have a full stomach, full of **nutritious foods**.

--

Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

"Myth: You Can't Be Overweight and Healthy"
http://www.obesitymyths.com/myth4.1.htm

"Study: Overweight People Live Longer"
http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer

"Starvation and Hunger, Humankind's Constant Companions"
http://gherkinstomatoes.com/2009/11/10/14837/

"Stop Hunger Now"
http://www.stophungernow.org/site/PageServer

Paul is not talking about just saying the words "Jesus is Lord".
Anyone can say that. Even demons can say it through people whom they
have possessed


**again**

Anyone can say insincerely say "Jesus is Lord".


***and***


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2012-02-20 07:41:39 UTC
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Post by Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD
Paul is not talking about just saying the words "Jesus is Lord".
Anyone can say that.
Lie.

The following religious Christian children can't though they wanted to
in order to get extra pieces of candy:


Post by Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD
Even demons can say it through people whom they
have possessed
Demons possess only those who can say "Jesus is LORD" and do so when
there has been a failure to http://WDJW.net/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) the
heart which is deceitfully wicked (Jeremiah 17:9) in allowing them to
abide there.
Amen to that.
This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) is reminded that Jesus
rescuing His sheep who had wandered (Matthew 15:24) by casting out the
demons that possessed them is different from His saving the souls of
the religious like Nicodemus who needed to be born again (John 3:3 &
5) to become new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by GOD.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f47fae452f4e5d7a?

someone whose name has been blotted(Deu29:20) from His Book(Deu32:33)
Andrew B. Chung is claiming that besides Jesus Christ, Andrew B. Chung
is the only true living human Bible teacher;
Lie.

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has not made that claim
for he is not a Bible teacher simply because physicians are by
definition not Bible teachers though the Great Physician is also the
Great Bible Teacher. Just as your church is not the Church (Matthew
16:18) Christ is building, your Bible teacher is not the Great Bible
Teacher, and your lord (satan) is not LORD Almighty GOD.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8f26f91ad51db396?

someone whose name has been blotted(Deu29:20) from His Book(Deu32:33)
Wouldn't it be interesting to see Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
post a link to an interpreter/teacher of Scripture whom Andrew B.
Chung doesn't consider to be false?
It really wouldn't be interesting to the discerning.

Any born-again (John 3:3 & 5) Bible teacher who truthfully says they
are "wonderfully hungry" whenever they are greeted would be someone
who would be a truthful Bible teacher.

Here is a link to the written words of Apostle Paul, who is one such
example of a truthful Bible teacher:

http://t.co/5UPcZDxa

Here is a link to the Facebook page of another:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1286670144

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a0602460d126e75e?

someone whose name has been blotted(Deu29:20) from His Book(Deu32:33)

"Anyone can say 'Jesus is LORD'" -- A false Bible teacher cited by
someone whose name has been blotted(Deu29:20) from His Book(Deu32:33)
of Life.

Source:
http://youtu.be/fzNu5bC5hT0

"No one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." -- Apostle
Paul (1 Corinthians 12:3)

Verification of 1 Corinthians 12:3 by a gentile Christian disciple ...

http://youtu.be/lo53axJ4x1o

(Though the above featured religiously Christian children wanted to
say 'Jesus is LORD' for extra pieces of candy, they could not because
they needed to be born again per John 3:3 & 5 to become new creatures
http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by GOD per 2 Corinthians 5:17 so that He
would be their GOD per Ezekiel 11:19-20 & 36:26 and they would be His
children)

May GOD ever so severely curse to the Nth generation all who grieve
His Holy Spirit by falsely teaching that "Anyone can say 'Jesus is
LORD'" in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

"Deaf-mutes obviously can't say anything much less say 'Jesus is LORD'
except by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, the statement 'Anyone can say
"Jesus is LORD"' has been logically proven to be false since anyone
would include deaf-mutes." -- gentile Christian disciple in the Holy
Spirit

Suggested additional reading:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5be9c7429d83a0d0?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a9494e037c47b328?
Only Satan would try to lull people into a false assurance of
Salvation in Jesus Christ, by claiming it's summed up in someone's
ability to parrot the second half of a Bible verse.
Only those who work for satan would claim they know what satan would
do.

It is written that the deceived like you would be deceiving others,
going from bad to worse (2 Timothy 3:13).

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has the experience of
training parrots to speak and has discovered that they cannot say
"Jesus is LORD" with their mouth (Romans 10:9) much less the entirety
of the second half of 1 Corinthians 12:3.

Lisa McClung has a similar experience as evident by her African grey
parrot being able to say many religious phrases **except** "Jesus is
LORD" as seen on YouTube:



Thus, you have been caught in another lie.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/06fa5c7ff7727403?
The charlatan Christian says, "The fact that I can quote the words
written in 1 Corinthians 12:3b, proves that I'm a genuine Christian".
Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/524c5702d8c4db06?

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has not witnessed anyone
saying that.

Instead, what he has witnessed is born-again (John 3:3 & 5) Christians
saying "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
Corinthians 12:3)
But remember that Satan also quoted Scripture (Psalm 91:11) in Matthew
4:5-6
This physician ( http://WDJW.net/Healer ) remembers Jesus Christ of
Nazareth pointing out that satan cannot call Him LORD (Matthew 4:7)
for if he could, he would have prefaced with "LORD, if You are the Son
of GOD ..." in Matthew 4:6.
and that one of his servants can just as easily quote 1
Corinthians 12:3b.
Actually, you cannot just as your master (satan) cannot for "no one
can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians
12:3).

May GOD ever so severely curse you and all around you to the Nth
generation, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

This prayer is being answered by GOD with all glory to the Father:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a9494e037c47b328?

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be51c482109ff735?
Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD
2012-02-20 10:49:01 UTC
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That's as far as I got this time. The rest was just a scrolling blur.
Maybe next time I'll read some more of it :-)
Tom Horn
2012-02-21 23:57:26 UTC
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"No single diet will work for all diabetics"
The reason to stay away from fad diets, lose 15 pounds of fat in a
month* and at the same time increase your energy and clean your bowels.
How would you like to lose that double chin and your prominent abdomen
and at the same time make your skin so clean and clear that it will
compel admiration? Get on the scales today and see how much you weigh
then get an bottle of Kruschen Salts which will last you four weeks.
Take one half teaspoonful in a glass of hot water every morning and when
you have finished the contents of this first bottle weigh yourself
again. After that you'll want to walk around and say to your friends
"One bottle of Kruschen Salts is worth one hundred dollars of other vat
approaches."

Yes, this is no diet, it just works.

Note: Use and abuse is potentially serious since it can lead to
intestinal paralysis, irritable bowel syndrome pancreatitis, renal
failure, and other problems, even though recovery could be possible with
proper treatment.

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