Evelyn Ruut <***@gmail.com> wrote:
: > : >>: > thanks all for the greetings and good wishes. it was
: > : > not
: > : >>: so great a
: > : >>: > birthday as my DH was still in hospital even though we
: > : >>: expected he
: > : >>: > wouldget home then. Delay for a day and he is home
: > : > now.
: > : >>: After never
: > : >>: > having to take any meds he suddenly developed
: > : > congestive
: > : >>: heart
: > : >>: > failure. They think it started with a clot that caused
: > : > the
: > : >>: heart to
: > : >>: > race, led ot edema and difficulty breathing. Now he is
: > : > on
: > : >>: blood
: > : >>: > thiners, digoxin and generic lasix. If the heart heals
: > : >>: itself over
: > : >>: > time some of thes may be reduced over time, bu tnot
: > : > likely
: > : >>: the blood
: > : >>: > thinner.
: > : >>: >
: > : >>: > do any of you gee whizzes out there know much about
: > : >>: vitamin K. He is
: > : >>: > supposed to avoid it and it is in dark, leafy greens,
: > : > one
: > : >>: of the
: > : >>: > mainstays of my diet. Which are worse and which less
: > : > so,
: > : >>: so I can
: > : >>: > make some intelegent choices.
: > : >>
: > : >>: What usually happens is that a dose of blood thinner is
: > : >>: calculated on the person's normal intake of certain
: > : >>: vegetables. I can't see why he is told to avoid something
: > : >>: when meds can be adjusted to suit. The doctor is supposed
: > : > to
: > : >>: do that, at least that's how it worked for the couple of
: > : > men
: > : >>: I knew who had to take blood thinners. They couldn't
: > : > change
: > : >>: their level of dark greens without advising the doctor,
: > : >>: avoiding the greens was not a requisite. He and you
: > : > together
: > : >>: need to discuss this with his doctor
: > : >>
: > : >> thanks, I ws told tht they were not limiting him at this
: > : > time and
: > : >> would see what he did on the subsequent tests. I was
: > : > concerned
: > : >> because those leafy greens are such a mainstay of my and
: > : > our diet.
: > : >> We have a cooked vegetable and a salad every night. the
: > : > hospital
: > : >> diet, of course, is nothing liek that. Their idea of a
: > : > vegetable
: > : >> serving is a tablespoon or two and the salads occasionally
: > : > served are
: > : >> tiny. Now that he is home we are back to the regular
: > : > routine adn he
: > : >> sees the cardiologist tororrw or Tuesday for a proton test
: > : > (sounds
: > : >> lke something from StarTrek). He will be getting frequent
: > : > test, I
: > : >> gather.
: > : >>
: > : >> It is all so new and I do want to try to make a good fit
: > : > between our
: > : >> two sets of limitations.
: > : >>
: > : >> Wendy
: > : >
: > : > You could perhaps still have the greens yourself, give hubby
: > : > less of those and add a few different veggies to his plate
: > : > so he doesn't starve :) I know people prefer to cook much
: > : > the same for everyone in the family but sometimes a little
: > : > compromise is necessary. I compromise too much, sometimes I
: > : > do about 4 different meals at one sitting to shut the fussy
: > : > ones up ;) Anyway, whatever you guys decide to do run it by
: > : > the doctor. Sounds like a smaller serve of those particular
: > : > foods is ok by your doc but best to be sure.
: >
: >
: >
: > : They are probably not referring to things like iceberg lettuce, but more
: > : heavy greens like spinach and kale etc.
: >
: > : --
: >
: > : Best Regards,
: >
: > : Evelyn Ruut
: >
: > We generall don't have thiceberg lettuse, but romaine, or the loose leaf
: > geen surly lettuce whose name is currently excaping me. Also green or red
: > peppers, radishes, tomatoes, sometimes green herbs or scallions or some
: > sweet onion. Only occsionally do I use arugela(rocket) or spinach etc.
: >
: > Wendy
: Yes, and adding lots of cucumbers and tomatoes and other veggies to the
: salad will stretch it and make it more interesting anyway.
: It is probably important for you to find out exactly what kinds of greens
: the doctor is talking about, and maybe get a list. In my husbands case the
: doctor especially mentioned beet greens, spinach and kale. Those are
: vegetables that one cooks down and thus there is a heavy concentrate. Of
: course, his list is for a different medical reason, but you get the idea.
: A gigantic pot of raw spinach will cook down to a very small amount. But
: the same amount in a salad is a different thing altogether. Certain
: greens like various lettuces and such are mainly water.
: --
: Best Regards,
: Evelyn Ruut
We saw the doctor esterday (he will go once a week for a while) and he
said not to restrict his greens, as he never wants to discourage vegetable
eating:-) He just wanted to make sure that he wasnot taking any vinamin
pill with vitamin K in it. As he takes no supplements, he is clear. I
understand that kale is a big offender, but we generally don't eat it, so
that's good. i suppose if he has problems with the clotting or the
stomach ( he now takes Prilosec as a preventative) there may be some
changes.
Wendy
