Post by Julie Bove
I don't know what in the heck is going on today, but it's not fun.
Yesterday started out quite normal. Tested at 143 after lunch. This is a
bit high for me, but I did eat a new kind of corn chip for my lunch and I
simply chalked it up to eating one too many. I ate only 6 of them, but they
are larger than the blue corn chips that I normally eat 6 of. Checked my BG
before and after dinner, and everything was fine then.
As the evening went on, I began to get a headache that worsened in severity.
By the time I went to bed, the back of my neck hurt and also my forehead.
Neck and shoulders felt stiff. I very rarely get headaches. I chalked this
up to tension because my daughter was really getting on my nerves and seemed
to be making a career out of it. When I tucked her into bed, she said "I'm
sorry I was making such a pissy fit!" Hehe.
Took a hot shower and went to bed, thinking that the sleep would relax me
and the headache would go away. Not so! I woke up in more pain and with
more stiffness that had extended down my arms. The headache seemed to be
almost a migraine type because lights were bothering my eyes and my stomach
didn't feel too good. BG upon arising was 166! Haven't seen a number that
high in a while, with the exception of the few high numbers I had during the
worst of that recent sinus infection. Took two Ibuprofen along with my usual
Despite feeling so rotten, I was also hungrier than usual. Ate 3 Ryvita
crackers and 1/2 cup of cottage cheese. Probably 15 g of carb. I threw
away the cottage cheese container, but I think that's about right. Took
daughter to the bus and luckily caught a ride there and back with a neighbor
because I really didn't feel like walking.
Began to feel more unwell and more hungry as soon as I got back home.
Suspected that my BG might still be high based on how I felt, but when I
tested it, I was at 88! How I dropped that rapidly is beyond me. The only
thing I can figure is that the Ibuprofen took the pain away and that allowed
the numbers to drop.
Lunch was still 4 hours away. Ate one Hershey's kiss and a bit of green
salad with a few olives in it. That took the hunger away. Did a few chores
around the house and then took a nap. Now the left side of me feels fine,
but the right side is still all stiff and tense. Took two more Ibuprofen.
They haven't kicked in yet. Some days are just no fun!
Sorry to hear you are not feeling well.
The one thing I got out of your post is that even though your 'not feeling well'
seemed to be indicative of high bg, it may have been in the beginning (143), but
it clearly wasn't so at the end (88).
So that raises the question for me: Is there really any way to know if your bgs
go high because you don't feel good to begin with, or you don't feel good
because your bgs were high?
This is not the first time I have raised this general issue, because the only
time I am aware I have diabetes is when I go too low. When I do, I get shaky
and it's impossible to control the mouse pointer on my trackball.
As posted previously, I had a 400 a couple months ago, determined in a quarterly
onocological lab blood test. I felt perfect.
With regard to vision, although I've never experienced the obvious problem, I
may have experienced a part of it. However, my opthamologist has spoken about
the importance of having good bg control at the time of refraction.
In addition, my neuropsychiatrist/psychopharmacoloigst (treating my long term
cognitive deficits) has indicated the importance of good bg control during the
period that I want to talk to him about my cognition problems.
It becomes even more complicated as a result of having obstructional sleep
apnea, since lack of 'quality sleep' can result in many, many system problems,
some of which are the same as diabetes. Some of these are frequent night time
urination, enlarged heart, congestive heart failure, stroke, and plain old heart
While I was reading alt.support.sleep-disorder, there appeared to be an
indication of an increasing number of people with diabetes AND sleep apnea. So,
as I've been reading here, I've been trying to see if there was anything I could
pick up on, but nothing except some of the system problems being similar.
However, since 'quality sleep' is required for proper body system healing, if
there is anyone here who feels like crap after a reasonable night's sleep, and
they're blaming it on diabetes alone, I suggest they investigate the possibiliy
of not getting quality sleep.
And a special note to the women here. Many women, including friends of ours,
always have an excuse for not sleeping well, waking up to urinate, etc. Mostly,
it's a hormonal excuse, especially the women over 55 or 60.
I've talked to both my neurologist diplomated sleep doc and my urologist about
this matter. Here's what they have had to say. Awakening to urinate can be a
weakened bladder problem (from untreated diabetes or an enlarged prostate, per
the urologist, from untreated apnea or enlarged prostate per the sleep doc). My
nighttime awakening went from 3 or 4 to 1 with treatment for apnea.
Nighttime awakening is not a characteristic of 'getting old' per the sleep doc,
for either sex. The urologist says any male over 50 who wakes once to urinate
Sorry for the long post, but the time seemed right to mention these things. I
am only aware of Tiger Lily, Sleepyman, and myself here with OSA. Are there others?